My tunes

This song is representative of my feelings these days

A message to the “Haram police”: I listen to music. I am not going to argue with you about this subject. You are not the first person nor will you be the last to tell me “music is haram.” You are not the first person to send me a scroll list of Ahadith and fatwas about the permissibility of listening to music. It is clear that I am not there with you and I am not sure if I ever will be. If you are that concerned about me listening to music then offer du’a for me. After today (1/12/09) I will not respond to your “music is haram” comments anymore. Thank you, have a good day!

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45 responses to “My tunes

  1. Do you listen to nasheeds? I try to balance it out, but I’m not crazy about music at all. Anyway, John Legend is aight still. There other albums are good too. I admit though I only listen to hip hop and some RnB if I happen to be on the computer, I dont listen to music anywhere. I still have that feeling that we should minimize listening to music because there has to be a genuine reason why its not promoted by some scholars. Well, If you get rid of the instruments and music I guess it would be acceptable as long as the content is clean.

  2. MK, I do listen to nasheeds but the ones I like don’t come out fast enough and not a lot of them have that soulful singing that I enjoy so much. I certainly can’t feel an Arabic nasheed or folksy-sounding kind of nasheeds the way I feel soul.

    As for the issue of music, as I have said 100,000 times on my blog I am not there when it comes to giving it up. You aren’t the first person (and I’m sure you won’t be the last) to outright tell me about music or insinuate that I shouldn’t listen to it. For me it’s like breathing. I have been a lover of music since I was 7 years old when I wrote my first song. Furthermore, I am not even sure if I buy the whole idea that music is in and of itself haram.

  3. I’m with you Samah on this. I am not there and most likely will never be there. Some of us are just musically inclined. I listen to every genre and I find things that I like and things that I don’t. The best music softens the heart and touches the soul.

    W.E.B DuBois, Frederick Douglass & countless others heard the story of our people in our music.

  4. Samira, I find it interesting that *some* of the people who want to talk about music being haram are the kind of people who never cared for music to begin with. It’s easy to admonish people for listening to something you could take or leave anyway.

    If I believed that music was 100% haram and I wanted to put something in its place, the current brand of nasheed would not suffice. (1) There aren’t enough genres for me. Acapella music alone is not enough. And I don’t care for folk music (which is what most nasheeds sound like). (2) Where is the soul? I mean, real soul. The kind that grabs you out of your chair. (3) I couldn’t- on a regular basis- listen only to a guy (or a few guys) singing over the same tired drum. That may sound bad but it’s the truth. I like variety. I like bass. I like pianos, the steel pan, a horn. (4) Where are the women? Oh, that’s right, our voice is part of awra so women do not sing. I LOVE female singers. Which brings me to my next point. (5) I would never deny the beauty of singing to Allah, worshiping Allah. That’s the remarkable thing about the Nasheeds I do listen to. However, I’m a big fan of love songs. It touches me when I hear someone singing about a situation I’ve through. (Especially when that someone is a woman). (6) Music has been a part of our history since we were brought to America, Latin America and the Caribbean. It was one of the few ways we could express ourselves without being killed. We had spirituals, freedom songs, protest songs, etc. (7) I can agree that there are definitely haram songs. As a Muslim I can’t even justify it. But…

    Do I believe music is haram? I’m not so sure.

    Will I stop listening to it? Allah knows best.

    What I need to do is get rid of the clearly haram music I have. That’s the hard part…

  5. hey just got to read your blog…anywayz i wanted to recommend to you a band called outlandish you can google them if you want they have preety decent type of music and its soulful i recommend calling you and Aisha…bye!

  6. salaams shukriyna,

    I know Outlandish. I actually like a few of their songs. Not quite the kind of soul I’m speaking of (they are from Denmark after all) but they’re good. I like “Calling you” and “I’ve seen.”

  7. Sister Samah,

    Sorry for the confusion though. I did not tell you to minimize listening to music or say there is something wrong with it. Maybe I shoulda reword what I had said. I was making a general statement. Also, I didnt say it was 100% haram. Maybe you’re referring it to other people. And yeah, I always wondered why there aren’t any female singers singing nasheeds and etc. I wouldn’t mind it. I like listening to female singers, female RnB singers too, rap, soca music too, and appreciating their good voice. I was referring to the issue about minimizing it, listening to the quran more and etc. Including me. Not abandoning it, and yea I understand how some people can’t minimize it.

  8. I hope I’m not contradicting. LOL

  9. sistafromanotherplanet

    I hate to beat the poor horse when is so close to death but I HAD to say something. I have always found it so very interesting when people are so quick and happy to judge what other people are doing. So quick to give suggestions and and advice “in their opinion”. Is there still only one God? Is he not the final authority? All the time people spend judgeing and handing out opinions they could be getting their own houses in order!!!!!
    God knows that “we” (african americans) have a song in out hearts. He put it there! He knows what we as a people have gone through, slavery, unequal rights, lynchings, and yes i’m going there, STILL getting follwed around the store in 2008! Soul music was always been playing in the background of all of these situations. From the old Grandmas humming and moaning to the freedom songs to the things we listen to now to get us through the mess we’re in these days. I am not an Islamic scholar, but I have enough sense to know that God gave us soul for a reason, SURVIVAL!!!! of 400+ years of slavery and inequality and…. Ok i have to stop there, my brown face is turning red I can feel it.

  10. I’m telling your sisters for your own good, Music is haraam!!! I used to play good jazz guitar back in the day. Yes, it was hard for me to give it up, but Allaah blessed me with the ability to do it. If I can give it up, EVERYBODY can.

    I advise you to go to Authentic Statements and purchase the CD’s “The Misconception of Music & Musical Instruments” by Fareed Abdullaah. I’ve never heard such a detailed explanation about ruling on music before. Get those CD’s (there are 3 of them)!!

    They asked Shaykh Saalih Al Fawzan about listening to An Nasheed. He said it is haraam to listen to them. First because of the singing, and that they are an innovation of the sufis, and that they are an imitation of the christiains who have reduced much of their deen to listening to singing and musical instruments. Another scholar said that listening to them competes with listening to the Qur’an being recited!!

  11. Samah, how do you like JL’s latest album? I’ve been on the fence about downloading it. I loved his first album but felt his second album was so-so. It had moments of brillance and then moments of mediocrity. I understand JL was trying to stretch himself. I guess I just really liked the feel of Get Lifted.

    As for music being haraam, I’ve been hearing this forever. Can the “music is haraam” people please stop beating this point over our heads? We stopped listening ages ago. It’s like telling an obese person “OMG! You’re fat! Don’t eat that cheesesteak! Don’t you know it’s bad for you?” The person is going to eat it anyway. In fact, I don’t even know if that analogy is the same because we do know about the effects of fatty foods but there isn’t even a consensus on music being haraam and it isn’t mentioned in the Qur’an either (yes, I know about the verse about vain discourse in Surah Luqman but I’m not convinced music is “vain talk”). So can people who believe that music is haraam just decide not to listen to music themselves and leave the rest of us be? Is that hard?

  12. ASA Faith,

    JL’s latest CD is golden. He still has some “Sting-sounding songs” on it but it’s not like the second one. There’s actually more soulful songs on “Evolver.” I agree he was trying to stretch himself and it didn’t work.

  13. leavebehindDunya

    I used to love music… I had taste all over the board. Once I accepted Islam I left it behind and didn’t look back. (note I’m not telling you its Haram, you know it is already). Do I miss it? no… Allah’s command is more important to me than pop Music and album covers with half naked people.

  14. sistafromanotherplanet

    I am LOVING that Q-tip girl!

  15. oh my God if I hear the “music is haraam” speech one more time I am going to scream! Music is a blessing that I thank Allah for everyday. And like you Samah I just can’t really “feel” most of the anasheed – but check out Any Given Time by Outlandish, that’s a song that’s about Allah SWT but still has soul.

    @leavebehindDunya, if you’re reducing all music to “pop music and album covers with half-naked people” then I think you were definitely right to give that up! That kind of music is not only harmful from an Islamic perspective, it’s harmful for artistic integrity, originality and creativity.

  16. For some reason, I’m not into Sami Yusuf. But, what you think about Musiq Soulchild.

  17. Murtaza, I think his music is starting to sound the same…

  18. I am more into roots , Tarrus Riley, Ifrica, Jah Cure,Garnett Silk etc and of course Sade she is timeless, a classic. I must say i enjoy robin thicke also. For those who say all music is sinful, go “” yuh muma cho!! Sorry i digress but the issue of music being haram is just minutia and senseless ranting.

    Music is an issue that has been hotly debated by scholars of the past and the present. While many of them have been generally inclined to condemn all forms of music, with the singular exception of ad-duff (tambourine) in weddings, quite a few of them have taken a more positive approach of considering only music containing sensual, pagan, or unethical themes or subliminal messages as being categorically forbidden.

    The latter view seems to be more consistent with the general nature of Islam, which is undoubtedly a complete way of life that caters to all of the genuine human instincts and needs within permissible limits. Thus, to say that all music is forbidden in Islam does not seem to agree with the balanced approach of Islam to issues of human life and experience.

    Traditions often cited by the first group scholars to justify condemnation of all musical instruments and music, according to some scholars, are considered as either spurious, or phrased in such way solely because of their associations with drinking, dancing, and sensuality.

    While everyone agrees that all forms of music that contain pagan, sensual themes, or subliminal messages are clearly forbidden, the latter group of scholars considers all forms of music free of such themes and messages as permissible.

    As a matter of fact, we know from the authentic traditions that the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, not only allowed music in the weddings but also listened to girls singing: While listening to girls singing on such an occasion, he interrupted them only once when they sang the following verse, “In our midst is a prophet who knows what will happen tomorrow”; whence, the Prophet, peace be upon him, told them, “Cut this sentence out, and continue singing what you have been singing earlier.” There is nothing in the sources to indicate that the above permission is limited to the occasion of wedding, as some people tend to think.

    In light of these, according to the last mentioned group of scholars, music that is deemed to be free of un-Islamic and unethical themes and messages, the same is true of musical instruments so long as they are not used for the above, have been considered as permissible.

  19. Your stance towards listening to music shows that you are ignorant of Islaam and you are arrogant–which is a lethal combination.

    Allaah named the Day of Judgement several names; and the Day of Sorrow and
    Regrets is one of them. Just think, it could be that your desire to listen to music could be, on the day of judgement; the one thing that tips your scale making you end up in the hell-fire. Then you would be full of regrets. We’re supposed to get rid of vices while we’re alive in this worldly life.

  20. Wow, is all I have to say!! Not sure why anyone would feel the need to come on someone’s blog and call them ignorant. Interesting David, your tone could also be the one thing on the day of judgement that tips your scale and sends you to hell, by calling people ignorant. What ever happened to husn al dhan, basic Islamic etiquette to give benefit of doubt to others and having a good opinion of others. Your response is quite offensive and disturbing so save your breath with your toxic dogma. If your intent is to draw people closer to the truth and the opinion that you espouse, you do a poor job delivering that message. You make people want to run fast!!!! Something to think about. steeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppps!!!

  21. Overwhelmingly the evidence from the Book of Allaah and the Prophetic Sunnah proves that listening to music is haram; yet people on this blog boast about the music they listen to. This is open sin, and what’s even worse is that y’all could care less. This is one of the reasons the ummah is in the condition it’s in: the Muslims turn away from the reminder!!!!!!!!!! Wallaahu Must’aan!!!!!!!!!

    • Daud, why do you keep coming to this blog with the haram music then? You have said your piece and I have heard you. Why have you made it your personal mission to constantly come here with the fire and brimstone?

  22. Aboo Abdillaah U

    Jazak Allaahu Khairan ya Daud for calling the people to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (Sal Allaahu alihi wa salam). The OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE is that music is sin and FAR TOO MANY Muslims are calling to the Hell-Fire and are proud of it.

    Openly talking about listening to music is like openly talking about fornicating and being proud of it. May Allaah guide us. It is a shame that this is supposed to be a Muslim blog yet it calls the people to misguidance. I ask you to please (for your soul) to read the evidences from the ulamaa of this ummah on this evil issue

  23. I watch belly dancing and arabic music videos on Youtube and the haram police are always there leaving “istaghfurullah” comments but they dont respond when you ask them why they are viewing a video with a title “sexy girl belly dancing”.

  24. I do NOT see overwhelming evidence that music is a “sin”. It’s not in the Qur’an anywhere. The hadiths show opposing sides regarding it.
    Music = fornicating???!!!!

    • Aynur, I was thinking the same thing. The exact same thing. And how does listening to music equate with committing a known and MAJOR sin? Some people…

  25. Aboo Abdillaah U

    @ samah007

    You missed my point. You all are OPENLY and proudly talking about committing sin. Please read the document provided by our brother Daud and see all of the proofs provided by our ulamaa

    @ Aynur

    See the document. Ask yourself who understands this deen better. YOU or the ulamaa of this deen who are following the way of the salaf

  26. I loved JL’s second album, especially “Each Day Gets Better”, what a beautiful song. My favorite song for the last two or three years now has been “Heaven”, man that’s a great tune! I ran the thing into the ground.

    I actually went to his concert this year, and the guy is unbelievably talented. This third album is just not as good as the first two though. The “Green Light” was too wordy and the message was not a good one (Do I have a girl friend, well technically no…).

  27. I come here occasionally to clarify the truth. To be honest with you, MUCH of what you say on your blog requires clarification/correction, which shows that you have some deficiencies in your understanding of the Deen.

    You’ve clearly stated you’ve “heard it all before” regarding the listening to music; so I won’t remind you of that. What I will remind you of is the danger of turning away from Allaah’s Signs and/or His Reminder:

    32:22 And who does more wrong than he who is reminded of the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord, then he turns aside therefrom? Verily, We shall exact retribution from the Mujrimûn (criminals, disbelievers, polytheists, sinners, etc.).

    18:57 And who does more wrong than he who is reminded of the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of his Lord, but turns away from them forgetting what (deeds) his hands have sent forth. Truly, We have set veils over their hearts lest they should understand this (the Qur’ân), and in their ears, deafness. And if you (O Muhammad SAW) call them to guidance, even then they will never be guided.

    20:124 “But whosoever turns away from My Reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Qur’ân nor acts on its orders, etc.) verily, for him is a life of hardship, and We shall raise him up blind on the Day of Resurrection.”

    43:36 And whosoever turns away (blinds himself) from the remembrance of the Most Beneficent (Allâh) (i.e. this Qur’ân and worship of Allâh), We appoint for him Shaitân (Satan ­ devil) to be a Qarîn (an intimate companion) to him.

    Ukhti, it is not permissible to turn away from nasihah when you are being called to the truth; even if it’s bitter for you to accept, or if you don’t like the way the person “brings it”. The believer says what the Sahaabah said, “We hear and obey…”

  28. Thank you Daud and Aboo Abdillaah, I’m lost, I’m haram, I’m disobedient. We have that clear now. Have a good day/evening!

  29. @ samah007

    RE: “You have said your piece and I have heard you.”

    Now you have a decision to make: are you going to obey your Lord and stop listening to music, or are you going to follow you desires?

    RE: “Why have you made it your personal mission to constantly come here with the fire and brimstone?”

    If the nasihah I gave you leads you to stop listening to music, then I get blessings for it, that are “better than the red camel”–which was priceless to the Arab. As well as the good feeling that comes with the knowledge that I aided a Muslim in doing good, and pleasing Allaah!

  30. Arrogance and pride are such blameworthy characteristics, it’s absoultely amazing that people really are so delusional and don’t know when to pump their brakes and just STOP. So is it safe to assume that Nasihah is now synonymous with belittling someone and resorting to name calling ie.. “your ignorant”. I find it to be a rude awakening and a disgusting abuse of religion. Seriously Daud/David what is your intention coming on here with this pseudo-saviour routine, it seems your interest is in spewing out the latest and greatest text that you copy and paste like a puppet. Your arguments are tired and old, everyone on this page has heard them before..vis a vis dogma of the salaf persuasion that is. If in fact Nasiha is sincere advice,and this is a religion of sincerity, after you have said your peace, why the need to continue to beat a dead horse. You have shared your opinion and advice, now keep it moving, next. Now you have a decision to make,lest one is filled with pride, hmmm??? Will you continue to beat a dead horse or will you move on to the next topic? Your too bomboclat bright..so gwey!!!!

  31. Hey I just stumbled past this page, and I was a little shocked at some of the comments. Just to point out, there has been a debate on the permissibility of music and there are scholars (including the world-esteemed Shaykh Yusuf al-Qaradawi) that have issued rulings saying that music is allowed.

    While I try not to listen to music, I don’t think this is an issue that we should be judging each other with, or pushing people away from Islam with – we have MUCH bigger fish to fry.

    In case you’re interested, you can read Shaykh Qaradawi’s fatwa here: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503544202

    Islam is a beautiful, tolerant religion that is meant to be for people of many different backgrounds and cultures. May Allah allow us to use the faith to uplift our lives and worship Him alone. Ameen.

  32. A lot of the people who so angrily judge and condemn others need to understand something: Islam is not some vast competition to see who can follow the rules, by-the-book, word-for-word, in the most exacting way possible. To borrow a phrase, it’s all about living to the Spirit of God’s Words, not the Letter.

    So many commandments of Islam are based on common sense and the establishment of peace and harmony between people. If your actions and manner of living, your thoughts and views, are in line with such an aim, then I would like to think that you are living more Islamically than those who go about churning up angry and conflict by picking on small aspects of people’s personal lives while simultaneously declaring that they are following all the rules.

    These people, when opposed, always like to draw upon the idea that it is their duty to guide others and advise them when they are doing something wrong. The danger in this is when they forget that their advice should be gentle and considerate and that once they have made a reasonable effort, it is no longer their responsibility. Constant goading will do nothing but drive the victim away, even possibly cause them to get frustrated with the religion and leave.

    People who continually judge others need to understand that their behavior is far from Islamic. They are beating upon others when they need to look at themselves. We are all supposed to live together as one people — this is hardly possible if people are constantly fighting over issues such as this.

    Muslims are a diverse people with diverse opinions and perspectives on life and religion. This is because there are a myriad of issues in Islam that people have been unable to come to an overwhelmingly undeniable consensus in. In a way, I feel that this is so for a reason. Religion is a personal thing. Your relationship with God is a personal thing. Each person should be able to travel upon their own journey of self-discovery and explore their thoughts on religion and God without having others rudely barging in.

    It is hypocritical to run about proclaiming that your brand of Islam is superior or more right or more pure than anyone else’s brand of Islam. We all practice Islam in a way that reflects our personal experiences and is *meaningful to us*. We are all placed, by God, in different kinds of situations, which shape the type of person we become and the kinds of beliefs that we adopt. You may choose to believe in your form of Islam, because that is the form that touches you and makes a real connection with you. But others have faced different things, so what moves and inspires you, may not do the same for them.

    The fact of the matter is that Allah gave us all free will. It is not anyone’s right to try to take that away. In the end, we are all individuals and we make our own decisions about how we desire to live life. If you have a problem with that, and a desire to continuously run others ragged with your personal viewpoints, you should seriously analyze your own behavior and ask yourself: “Where are these urges really coming from?” Remember that Shaitan can very easily make you think that you are doing the right thing. Sowing dissension in the name of “guiding others” is hardly the right thing to do. Guidance through antagonism and condemnation is anything but.

    And remember this also, “There is no compulsion in religion…(2:256).” We are not ones to say otherwise.

    Advise and guide, but gently, politely and with respect, and if that person chooses not to adopt your viewpoints, it is not because they are bad people, but because they are discovering and exploring their faith at their own pace and time.

  33. sistafromanotherplanet

    Diggin’ that Chrisette! I love her! I play “Ephipany” over and over. Diggin that Mos Def as well! I’ve only heard good things about his new joint.

  34. Salaam,
    I don’t know much about your play list above, ok, truthfully, I know nothing of them at all….

    but

    any woo,

    I’m enjoying old people stuff getting into their old groove.

    Like ‘Raising Sand’ with Robert Plant and Allison Krause.

    Also, enjoying even more the latest by Yusuf (Islam),
    ‘RoadSinger.’

    Take a look at his comments regarding the whole music thang:

    ‘Didn’t He Say Music is Forbidden?’
    http://www.yusufislam.com/faq/c673d6e1874727cc469c62b0e4645d7b/

    It is interesting, the whole mind/spiritual thang process we humans go through, or at least some of us do, when it comes to music for example.

    I’m just really glad, grateful, but mostly hopeful that it is Allah who will Judge us lowly humans and not us lowly humans who will judge us lowly humans. If that were to be, Hell would be overflowing. We all baaaad.

    There is hope, and with that hope, a new day awaits, Inshallah, with positive opportunities for each of us.

    It’s all in the ‘tude honey ‘chile, the ‘tude. ‘Member, intentions count, one way or the other.

    Peace Out.

  35. I so agree with you. BTW, i love your blog. It’s awesome.


  36. Sami Yusuf – Asma Allah
    u gonna like this 😀

  37. I made a lot of comments earlier about music. I believe following the Quran and sunnah the way the sahabas and the pious predecessors follow it. so, if the sahabas say its not permissible, then I take their word. I don’t mean to bring this discussion again but I just want to clear my stance on it, after seeking some knowledge I have understood things more and realized i was a modern muslim in the past, I wish to be the like the sahaba’s and the salaf now.

  38. Very few things in life and in Islam are black and white, there’s a little thing called “difference of opinion”. I found this article interesting. http://www.muslimaccess.com/articles/misc/music_in_islam.asp
    In the end Allah knows best.

  39. Great selection! 🙂

  40. Salam sis,
    I love your blog; I find you to be honest, and quietly confident, mashallah 🙂

    I read your stance that you will not respond to anymore music is haraam posts….and this is not one 🙂 May Allah guide us all to what is good inshallah. The only nasiha (advice) I can give is that if you do have doubts about whether or not music is haraam, try to keep it between you and Allah. Because if music does end up being forbidden, this would’ve been spread with lots of other people, and would end up on your plate also. And I only want good things for you sister 🙂

    Your sis Saew

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